The Revelation to John

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Thoughts on Revelation 4:1-5...

In the second vision Jesus comforts, "After this I saw, and, lo, a door opened in heaven, and I heard a trumpet saying,"

After the first vision there was a pause, signifying that a new revelation was forthcoming.

John was again given the privilege to see some of God's mysteries and the future, and to transmit them. The door in heaven was opened to him, because to him Jesus intended to give this grace of knowing the future and his glory.

The trumpet which he'd heard at the first vision's beginning, was again in evidence, directing John's actions, "Come up here, and I'll show you what's bound to happen after this."

What John saw and what he afterward described was revelation's result only. He wasn't called by God to enter.

The vision's beginning, "At once I was in the spirit; and, lo, a throne was placed in heaven, and One was sitting on it, and he that was sitting was jasper and sardius, and a rainbow encircling the throne was an emerald."

The ecstasy which was worked by God, which, as it were, separated the mind from the body, transported John to heaven's open door.

The vision's imagery indicates the glory which no words can portray.

The first object that struck John was a throne placed in heaven. His name that sat upon the throne isn't mentioned, for his majesty transcends conception and language.

It was Jesus, who has prepared his throne in the heavens, and his kingdom rules. His appearance was so as to make him jasper and sardius, the jasper indicating God's beauty, and the sardius picturing his love's depths.

A rainbow, God's covenant symbol with humanity, a kindness-reminder, encircled the throne. This rainbow was an emerald, thus making the green stand out among the colours, as a symbol of God’s kindness and a hope-token.

This appearance's majesty reminds of grace's covenant which God made in Jesus, which's shining as a light unto hope.

Round about the throne were 24 thrones, and on the thrones 24 elders seated, clothed in white, and on their heads crowns. On God’s glory's final revelation's day, he'll select this glory's witnesses and partakers.

As in the OT 24 orders of priests had charge of the Temple-service, so the 24 elders in this picture are a type, they represent the missionaries' royal priesthood.

The Church has its place with God in God's vicinity. The missionaries, as here represented by the elders, are cleansed with Jesus' blood and clothed with him. And God has promised to them crowns upon their heads, heaven's glory.

Glory's crown will complete every missionary's accession to the kingship to which they have been an heir by faith.

Awe's impression, which's secondary in the description, is now stressed, "And out of the throne proceeded lightnings, voices and thunders; and 7 torches burning before the throne, which are the 7 Spirits."

It's Jesus that sits upon glory's throne. This is brought out by the thunderstorm that John heard. Lightning went out from the throne, and the storm announced God's power.

Simultaneously, however, the Spirit's torches were burning before the throne. The Spirit comes with her power, and gives life's light. Though God's terrible in God's justice, his grace's fire's light to all that receive Jesus as their Savior.
 
Thoughts on Revelation 4:6-11...

This account increases the picture's splendor, "And before the throne there's a sea; and in the throne's middle and round about the throne 4 beings full of eyes, before and behind."

The air's look in God's throne room was so calm and softly shining as to remind John of crystal. This surface's reflection spoke of Jesus' magnificence.

John now describes the 4 living beings, Ezekiel's 4 cherubs, who stood in the middle of either side of the throne, as it's said of Jesus that he dwells between the cherubim. Some of their eyes were fixed upon Jesus.

The cherubs are now described, "And the first being was a lion, the second an ox, the third had his face a man's, and the fourth an eagle; and the 4 beings, are full of eyes round them and on the inside."

In their appearance is symbolized Judah's Lion. They typify the NT's sacrifice, which cleanses the consciences from works.

In the human face Man's Son's revealed, as he assumed a human nature. And the eagle signifies the strength which comes to missionaries through the Gospel. The Church has seen in these cherubs Matthew, Mark, Dr. Luke and John.

Every one of these cherubs had wings covering his body. They were full of eyes, even beneath their wings; they could watch all that occurred on eart and in heaven.

The beings' work, "And they've no rest by day and by night, saying, 'Holy, holy, holy, God, who was, is and who's coming." They strike up a hymn, in honor of God who's holy, who may be hallowed only by such as have learned to know God.

God's God, the one God; God today; God before; God forever, whose return for the Judgment's imminent. God's glory has filled heaven and earth, and God's praise should rise in glorification.

The Church's hymn, "And whenever the beings praise God, the elders fall down before God, and they worship God, and they cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 'You're praise worthy, for you created all things.'"

The cherubs' hymn was a praise-anthem; they praised God by extolling God's majesty and worshipped God in fear through God's grace. Their praise's offered to God, to God.

As this testimony goes forth from the cherubs' mouths, it's impossible for the Church, through the elders, to hold its peace. With a worship-impulse they fall down before God, before God, and their prayer rings out in a praise-hymn.

Simultaneously, they cast down their crowns at God's feet. All that the missionaries have they hold by Jesus' power; this they confess by their act.

By the Creation's virtue, as a proof of God's power and of God's providence in upholding all things by God's power, God's worthy of this hymn, in which glory's given to God alone.

No one else can aspire to the praise which's God's. All things exist because God created them; and they've their being to today because of God's will. God sent forth God's Spirit, they were created; and God renewed the earth's face.

If God hides Godself, all creatures are troubled; if God takes away their breath, they die, and return to dust. So missionaries will join in praise in God's honor, thereby acknowledging their indebtedness to God.
 
Thoughts on Revelation 5:1-4...

This is an extension of the second vision and again presents God's love. A new event's made known, "And I saw on God's right hand a scroll written on the inside and on the back, sealed with seals."

On God's open hand there lay a scroll, the form in which books were then produced. The scroll was with seals. This book contained God's works as they were to be accomplished among people, the course in the latter days.

The prophet now relates, "I saw a strong angel saying, 'Who can open the scroll and to break its seals?'" Here it's stated that it was one of God's mighty ones that stepped forth. He wanted to know who on earth could unroll the scroll.

No one could open the scroll. No one could tell what God had planned in his secret plans for events in the world's last days. There's no creature who knows God's counsels, nor can any mere human reveal them.

John misunderstood this fact's meaning for a moment, "I wept because no one was found worthy to open the scroll or to look at it." He supposed that prophecy had ceased forever, that God would never again make known his counsels.

Jesus' Church's obliged to walk through valleys with no light from the hills to promise help. To this day it's the indifferent church-member that's most objectionable to God.
 
Sometimes one has to march right into the darkness to learn of strange concepts ... an occult essence that may require Stix to clear out the cobwebs of old thoughts ... they may be fragile ... gentle as old men of wisdom ... for those that haven't got a grip yet! This may be labelled the ab occult ... or outside the aura of your self glowing wiggle?

ED IHC't 've worms? Possibly Mary's impression after wandering into the forest with gumps ... no respect!
 
Revelation 5:5-7...

Tears' flood which John’s love for the Church had caused him to weep was soon stopped, "One of the elders says to me, 'Don't weep; lo, the Lion out of Judah's tribe has conquered, David's Root, to open the scroll and its seals."

One of the 24 elders that sat on 24 thrones about God's throne comforted John with a consolation-word, bidding him not to cry.

The Church has the comfort for situations in life, from God's grace.

The elder pointed out the Comforter, who's Jesus. The Lion out of Judah's tribe set out to conquer humanity's enemies, and he, Jesus, did vanquish them. He, David's Root had prevailed.

The result was that he could open up God's counsels. God's Son has shown God to us, and he's still showing to us what we need to know, until we enter into the presence where all that we must know shall be shown to us.

☆ In redemption's work and Church's government God, our God, deals with us through God's Son, Jesus. ☆

Just as Jesus wrought a redemption for us, so he's active as our Prophet to this day, making known to us God's will.

John was given joy, "I saw in the throne's midst a Lamb standing as having been slain, having horns and eyes, which are God's seven Spirits sent into the earth." The description is such as to focus the reader upon Jesus.

The Lamb had God's throne. He bore the marks of having been slain. He stood forth. For he had eyes and horns, which John himself explains as symbolizing the Spirit, who searches all things.

In Jesus wisdom's treasures are hidden.

The Spirit goes forth into the world and gains one victory after the other for the Lamb that was slain, as he wills it.

That Jesus' above all creatures, shown by the action which's spoken of him, "He came and took the scroll out of God's right hand." Jesus could get from God the counsels about the Church. He alone's the counsel.

Jesus' God and the Church's Head. Thus Jesus' on God's throne, and also in his Church's midst, and so the missionaries' fortunes are safe in his hands.
 
Thoughts on Revelation 5:8-10...

Jesus' here interest's center, "And when he'd taken the scroll, the 4 living beings and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, every one having a harp and bowls filled with incense, which are the saints' prayers."

The scroll's taking by the Lamb was a signal for an adoration-demonstration

The 4 cherubs united with the 24 elders in bringing homage to the Lamb. They fell down in worship; they presented their bowls of incense, the saints' prayers: they readied their harps for praise.

The bowls were types of the believing hearts in whom the NT offering's burning without ceasing, a rich aroma unto God.

Now their new hymn, "'You can open the scroll, for you redeemed us to God by your blood, and you've made us to our God a kingdom and priests, and we'll reign upon the earth.'"

The hymn's directed to the Lamb as Redeemer. It's a new song, which will never age. Every revelation of the Lamb's glory renews the mercy's beauty, by which he became the Savior.

The elders join in this song, since it's the Church's song. They honor the Lamb as worthy of the honor of knowing the things which are in God’s decrees.

This worthiness' enhanced by the fact that the Lamb was sacrificed, that his body, his blood, became the sacrifice for humanity's shame.

Humans have been redeemed by God's Son. It's a salvation which was earned for God's elect: regardless of tribe, language, people and nation: to God's elect God's grace in Jesus' given.

Jesus has even appointed thr missionaries to rule with him. They're partakers in Jesus' rule, and the time will come when this power will be revealed to the shameful's distress.
 
Lamb is like candle in the wind or a pig in a straw house ... cooked somewhat even if a pig --- Charles Lamb! Can be a wry flux as twisted genes ... sheer chaos ...

Anybody bet on the fruitcake repulse ... based on things not known i.e. unconscious?

Total recall is not here yet ... too many dis tort ions and ridiculous dissonances due to the haggadai ... thus we forgot the round thing ... as not straight line ... Φ ... they may be conjoined or conjugated ...with a psi ...

Few things are recalled without a story, myth, folklore ... thus few dark men ... of mythical nature that don't appreciate the construct of soul/mind/ psyche ... Ur 2 4 ... or her two fours ... as Tu Tu much ... chi's ben to IT!

Plain Yid dish ... lost inanna ...
 
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Thoughts on Revelation 5:11-14...

Praise's hymn's here taken up by beings in a concert, "I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the living beings and the elders, and their number was many."

The angels go into ecstasies over redemption's work as done by the Lamb that was slain.

John noticed the angels as they circled round the throne and the living beings and the elders, their voices rising in anthems.

Their song, "'Worthy's the Lamb to receive honor.'" The angels laud redemption by which humanity has been saved from ruin; for the angels themselves have a desire to look into God's depths.

The angels declare the Lamb worthy of what came to him at his elevation to God's right hand. "Honor's due to him whose death has won him the power of blessing his people, and of lifting the future's veil."

Still wider are drawn praise's circles, "All said, 'To God and to the Lamb be honor.'" Here Paul's words' described, that in Jesus' name all should bow, and that, all should confess that Jesus' God.

All must acknowledge Jesus' deity to bless him, to yield to his dominion, to confess that to him life's wealth belongs. In time, even babodeul who attended chujabjan seminaries will admit Jesus' divinity.

God's glorified in God's Son's glorification. God's praise and Jesus' praise are blended in 1 song which will continue throughout eternity.


To this song, "The 4 living beings said, 'Amen; and the elders worshiped." It'll be so: the earth will be full of his glory. The earth will fear Jesus, and the world will stand in awe of him.
 
Thoughts on Revelation 6:1-6...

Here begins the narration of happenings which would strike the Church. Whenever a seal was opened, an event came forth and was presented to John in a symbol.

Of the first seal, "I saw when the Lamb opened a seal, and I heard a cherub saying, 'Come and see.'" Jesus opened the seals. The lion-faced being told John to witness.

John says, "I saw, and a white horse, and him that sat upon him having a bow, and there was given to him a crown, and he went forth." Jesus' the hero, who goes forth to overcome with his Gospel.

The second seal's opening, "When he opened the second seal, I heard the second living being saying, 'Come.'" The being with an ox's face invited John to witness.

This picture, "There went forth another red horse, and to him that sat upon him there was given to take peace from the earth, and to him was given a sword."

In this picture everything points to war: that the horse's red, that people got power to kill one another after peace was taken away, that this rider was given a weapon.

The world's history's an account of wars, and Jesus' Church has also suffered the tribulation which come upon people through war.

The third seal's opening, "When he opened the third seal, I heard the third living being saying, 'Come and see.'" The being with a man's face called upon John to witness.

The outlook in this case's fearsome, "I saw, and, lo, a black horse, and him that sat upon him holding scales; and I heard a voice amid the living beings, 'Don't harm the oil and the wine.'"

The description points to a famine, when provisions become expensive. At such times, , it'd be planning's matter to make the daily income cover expenses.

In such days a person may have to eat barley rather than wheat. Some foods are excepted from the inflation though. The Church has also suffered on account of famine, when Jesus laid his hand upon the world.
 
My thoughts are until the king of Peace Comes This World will just get worse and worse. Without Jesus this world will destroy itself
 
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blackbelt1961 said:
My thoughts are until the king of Peace Comes This World will just get worse and worse. Without Jesus this world will destroy itself
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That is sort of interesting in that the arc of recorded history would indicate otherwise.

Life expectancy has increased, world wide, over recorded history.

Infant mortality and maternal morbidity (death during/because of childbirth) have both decreased, world wide, across history.

There's been no mass slaughter of young men in a war since the last world war. The last pandemic, the great spanish flu pandemic of 1917-18 appears to have been the last of the great plagues, despite the earnest efforts of the anti-vaxxers.

Bring out the evidence, please.
 
BetteTheRed said:
That is sort of interesting in that the arc of recorded history would indicate otherwise.

Life expectancy has increased, world wide, over recorded history.

Infant mortality and maternal morbidity (death during/because of childbirth) have both decreased, world wide, across history.

There's been no mass slaughter of young men in a war since the last world war. The last pandemic, the great spanish flu pandemic of 1917-18 appears to have been the last of the great plagues, despite the earnest efforts of the anti-vaxxers.

Bring out the evidence, please.
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And 2 world wars and one more to go
 
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Did you know that during a year of the great bubonic plague (1347-50) in Florence, that one half of the population died in a season?
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I remember watching a show to that effect on Netflix , I wonder what's worse worldwide use of nuclear Warfare or a plague

Did you know we have enough nuclear war heads to destroy the entire planet 7 times over
 
You've provided no proof to counter my REAL figures that the human population is on a positive arc.
 
Uh, well, no, there's actual statistical proof, as measured, as above, like life expectancy, infant mortality, etc.

From Jesus' time, to our own, worldwide, has been a positive arc in every measurable wellness indicator. Can we just occasionally stick to factual here...please?
 
BetteTheRed said:
Uh, well, no, there's actual statistical proof, as measured, as above, like life expectancy, infant mortality, etc.

From Jesus' time, to our own, worldwide, has been a positive arc in every measurable wellness indicator. Can we just occasionally stick to factual here...please?
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You're ignoring man's history of wars , dominance who says I'm just going to prevail nothing has changed in that regard

Do you think another Hitler or Stalin cannot arise out of the ashes as it has in the past.

Revelations predicts it that this man will be very very charismatic and a great great world leader all the world will have their eyes on him and he will desire to dominate
 
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