The women divide the plunder ?

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George ...let me make this point....
This is not about friendly sparring in Sherwood Forest nor is it merely an academic difference of opinion on some topic or issue.
This is about the core personhood of my kids and how others will callously make light of their identity and in doing so demean them so badly. This sort of thing drives them toward suicide. I know, I live it. This sparring match is life or death for just one of the contestants. An unwilling contestant forced to fight for their life never knowing when the next battle will be or with what monster.
The suicide rates. 43% overall. Approaching 60% for kids in religious families.
Look up Leelah Alcorn.
I will give no quarter in this fight.


Yet this still goes on in the swamp of the mind that resembles a mangrove area ... perhaps Goshun ...

Corrupted by all the schism floated our way ...
 
Thanks for sharing Rita. I engage this conversation, often, vis a vis disability, and often in academic circles. I can remember many occasions when academics, who were able bodied and heteronormative (and usually middled aged men) were debating issues of caregiving, motherhood, disability, identity, and personhood as some sort of academic game. I can remember some dude (a Catholic priest, no less) telling me what my experience as a mother of a child with a disability was. With no experience as a mother, or a women, much less a mother of a profoundly disabled child, he decided he was the expert and would inform me of my experience. I can remember wanting to jump on the table and remind this group of men that this was not some theoretical debate this was my son's life, and my life, and they had NO WAY OF UNDERSTANDING MY LIVED EXPERIENCE.

I am with Rita. These are not academic debates. We are talking about personhood - the fundamental God-given essence of a person. We need to make space to hear the lived experiences and benefit from the lived wisdom of experts - those who live the journey.

In other words, we need to shut up and listen and try to hear what is being said. We can ask questions. We can admit our discomfort, or our confusion and uncertainty, but we don't get to be the experts here. Sparring suggests a meeting of experts who engage in a friendly duel. That is not what is happening. There is an expert and one who needs to shut up and listen.
 
How many are declared disabled because of imperfection and yet have this savant attribute ... there's Moor!


Not hard and fast (determinate) and retaining the ability to process the unbelievable BS ... put forward by those of us labelled crazy ... geistart items ... beyond some spectra of burnings?
 
George ...let me make this point....
This is not about friendly sparring in Sherwood Forest nor is it merely an academic difference of opinion on some topic or issue.
This is about the core personhood of my kids and how others will callously make light of their identity and in doing so demean them so badly. This sort of thing drives them toward suicide. I know, I live it. This sparring match is life or death for just one of the contestants. An unwilling contestant forced to fight for their life never knowing when the next battle will be or with what monster.
The suicide rates. 43% overall. Approaching 60% for kids in religious families.
Look up Leelah Alcorn.
I will give no quarter in this fight.
Thank you for pointing this out and apologies for giving the impression that I take such matters lightly. I do not.

George
 
I'm looking forward to having a love button in the new upgrade. I just don't know how anyone can look at Kai and not see a little girl.
 
Transsexual Sandy Stone writes:

"...one of the ways that people justify oppressing people of any alternative gender or sexuality is by saying that the social norm is natural. In other words it comes from God, an authority to which there is no appeal. All this is, in fact, a complete fabrication, a construction. There is no "natural" sex, because "sex" itself as a medical or cultural category is nothing more than the momentary outcome of battles over who owns the meanings of the category. There is a great deal wider variation in genetics than most people except geneticists realize, but we make that invisible through language...by having no words for anything except male or female. One of the ways our culture erases people is by not having any words for them. That does it absolutely. When there's nothing to describe you, you are effectively invisible."
 
Once Spirit and Flesh are consciously joined, there is grounding, there is exaltation… there is balance.

Once the need to polarize and separate relents, barriers fall away and fear gives way to love.

All began in love; all seeks to return to love. Love is the law, the teacher of wisdom, and the great revealer of mysteries.

To transgress the arbitrary boundaries of gender is to honor the potential of Spirit.

One who has a man's wings
and a woman's also
Is in self a womb of the world
And, being a womb of the world,
Continuously, endlessly,
gives birth ....

We are deities. We are Spirit manifesting in human forms. Let us live that truth, and help everyone see the beauty and strength that lies beyond the constraints of gender. And let us give thanks for the unique opportunity to do so.

The Spirit of Transgender
 
Imagine There's No Gender
Holly Boswell's adaptation for a gender-free anthem:

[to the tune of John Lennon's "Imagine"]:

Imagine there's no gender. It's not so hard to do.
Babies in rainbow blankets, not just pink or blue.
Imagine all the people, being free to choose...

Imagine there's one pronoun. I wonder if you can.
No such words divide us. No such 'woman' or 'man'.
Imagine all the people. More than just their glands...

[chorus]
You may say I'm a dreamer,
But I'm not the only one.
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will be as one.

Imagine our potential. It's easy if you try.
To claim both strength and beauty, with both our wings we'll fly.
Imagine all the people, free to be themselves...
 
The Radch, the dominant civilization in Ann Leckie's novel Ancillary Justice and its sequels, are a non-gendered human culture and she has a hell of a time conveying that. She actually uses feminine pronouns for everyone, which is almost worse than using "they" or making up a word. Instead of making you see a non-gendered culture, you end up picturing everyone as female, which is not non-gendered to my thinking (though I suppose you could argue that if everyone is referred to as the same gender, then gender becomes irrelevant so it works that way). Part of the book deals with a person from that culture trying to survive on a world where the language is gendered and it gets confusing, moreso than if she had used a neutral non-gendered pronoun. Still a really good book and I'm glad she made the attempt, but I'm not sure it works as intended. Perhaps by the third book (it's a trilogy) you get used to it.

Some good thoughts coming out here. Thanks to the Ritas and others.
 
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