The Murder Capital of Canada

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I spent the first 21 years of my life in Winnipeg. Back then it seemed a very safe city. Even as a young boy, I walked almost everywhere without fear. Now aboriginal (Metis) gangs have made Winnipeg the murder capital of Canada. The video explains why this happened, but the aboriginals interviewed seem to believe that it is now too late. Their poverty and identity crisis is so deep that no restoration of awareness of their cultural heritage can make a significant difference.

I was shocked to learn that 10% of the city's population is now aboriginal, and yet, over 30% of our prison inmates are aboriginal. Recently, I googled Winnipeg streets that I safely used to roam and was stunned by the murders, assaults, and robberies reported on those streets in recent years. I am still haunted by the disparaging ways Metis were described during my youth. They were stereotypes as lazy drunks. In my decades in the USA, I have never encountered such a widespread vitriolic stereotype of native Americans.

I don't expect to ever return to Winnipeg, but I have great memories of the city and long for it to get its act together. My decades in the USA have put me out of touch with attempts to remedy this racist problem. Please watch this video and share any insights or experiences you have about this tragic issue:

aboriginal gangs winnipeg youtube - Bing video
 
Word.

I heard volunteers dredge the Red River for bodies?
And is this accurate for North Winnipeg?
Allegedly in 2011 the average life expectancy in Point Douglas South was similar to that of west timor ?

Idiotically Wise,
Inannawhimsey
 
Ritafee said:
Canada's 20 most dangerous places 2019 - Maclean's
Winnipeg Is Not in the top 20 on this list.
Thompson Is Number 1.
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According to wikipedia, Windypeg was "Murder Capital of Canada" 2007-2012?

The Murder Capital of Canada also seems to change
As is probably normal?

According to Google, the current Murder Capital is Edmonton???
(Not including Yukon, NWT and Bob)

Murderously Compassionate,
Inannawhimsey
 
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In the modern age of leisure ... what can one imagine but brute originality ... kill or be done!

Sophie's Choice ... the other half is in the hinterlands ... that's out of here and now! A vast bleak house of abstraction ... the other's Ide mind'ou ... are mine doings tailings?

Thus the underlying is raised ... giving some subtle nature to historical acceptance of reality alone ... dark aspirations of Moor! These could be hounded ... subtle dog Maw ... it too goes round ... tail chasing hu' mus?

Allows space for original thought to be out there yet ... go for it! Forget the tight ends ... this isn't football ... the game is permanent ... given the hommoe stretch of AEsop ... wrong end?
 
Inannawhimsey said:
The Murder Capital of Canada also seems to change
As is probably normal?
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It would, both with changes in crime patterns and population (I am assuming we are using a per capita rate, not raw numbers). London's had a miserable year on the violence front but I suspect we are still well off from being the "murder capital."
 
So far no one has commented on the why aboriginal gangs are the major cause of Winnipeg's dubious new distinction. The posted video provides a nice summary of how their children were taken from their parents and forced to attended boarding schools that often tried to "cleanse" them of their culture and identity. So I'm wondering why aboriginal gangs seem to be the major reason for so many Winnipeg murders in recent decades. I ask the same question about the uniquely high murder rate in the African American section of Chicago. There turf wars have been identified as a major factor (defending the Hood).

Of course, I take for granted that neither Blacks nor the Metis are inherently less moral than other ethnic groups. So why have Winnipeg aboriginals made the city the murder capital of Canada in most of recent decades, while aboriginals in other parts of Canada seem comparatively more peaceful?
And can anything be done about it that makes a difference? Manitoba aboriginals don't seem to think so.
 
Delightful hostility ... the kind of conflict that wakes the mind ... as the cat comes out of it stupor --- Joyce, or Schrodinger on the waves that pass over ... causing aspirations!

If the cat comes to during the stuffing/shafting will it regress? Moses' enigma regarding the stix ... tinde rof "elle?"

Strike one ... bode, 2nd hart, then 3rd solar plexus ... once gathered your out of here! Gone forth ... a myth hard to reconcile ...
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
Glad we have a thread to cheer @GiancarloZ up:whistle:
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Before we moved here, people from Quebec warned us that violence in Winnipeg was high. We checked the indexes, though, and it seems more like fights between gangs than generalized violence. I heard of some cases of assaults and robberies, but it's not as generalized as in Brazilian big cities.
Sometimes some crazy stuff happen, though. Some months ago a Brazilian girl was spanked downtown by an aboriginal gang, sunlight time, and nobody helped her despite she cried for help. She was saved by a policeman passing by. That was quite shocking.
 
GiancarloZ said:
Before we moved here, people from Quebec warned us that violence in Winnipeg was high. We checked the indexes, though, and it seems more like fights between gangs than generalized violence. I heard of some cases of assaults and robberies, but it's not as generalized as in Brazilian big cities.
Sometimes some crazy stuff happen, though. Some months ago a Brazilian girl was spanked downtown by an aboriginal gang, sunlight time, and nobody helped her despite she cried for help. She was saved by a policeman passing by. That was quite shocking.
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Does spanked mean the same thing to you as it does to me? Slapping her bum?
 
ChemGal said:
Does spanked mean the same thing to you as it does to me? Slapping her bum?
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Oops, no! Beaten maybe is the correct word? Sorry for that, I just picked the most similar word to the one in Portuguese.
 
GiancarloZ said:
Oops, no! Beaten maybe is the correct word? Sorry for that, I just picked the most similar word to the one in Portuguese.
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Ok, weirder things have happened so I wasn't sure if it was a translation or different slang words or if that's what actually happened!
Assaulted would be the legal term, but beaten works too.
 
A Manitoba First Nations children’s advocate says the child-welfare system is designed to keep Indigenous families at a disadvantage.

Cora Morgan with the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs told the national inquiry into missing and murdered Indigenous women that the system is set up to apprehend children, not to support families.

Morgan says violence can be linked to child welfare because it not only removes them from their families, but also takes away their identity and self-worth.

She says the system “just eats up our children to the point where they lose their value for life.”

Morgan hopes her words can create change.

Manitoba has the highest per-capita rate of children in care and almost 90 per cent are Indigenous.

Involvement in the Indigenous child welfare system is a risk factor for gang involvement and criminality that is quite firmly established in the literature. The path from child welfare to gang involvement is intensified through the displacement of Indigenous children that can lead to vulnerability, abuse and harm, trust and attachment problems, as well as an array of mental health issues. Gang members themselves state that their peers who have been raised in care make good targets for recruitment because gangs promise to act as family substitutes.
 
  • In 2016, police in Canada reported 141 gang-related homicides, 45 more than in 2015. The largest increases in the number of gang-related homicides committed with a firearm were reported in Ontario and British Columbia.
  • Indigenous gangs make up about 20 per cent of Canada's gang population. According to research conducted by Dr. Alanaise Goodwill, Indigenous youth join gangs to escape poverty and obtain the necessities of life. The second reason is incarceration. She says for a large number of Indigenous Canadians in jail, gang membership is often a key to survival.
  • Goodwill says many Indigenous youth who join gangs have parents who have been, or are a part of, a gang. She noted Aboriginal gangs can be traced back to residential schools, and joining a gang may serve as way to cope with past trauma.
 
I really dont know Mystic....I suspect the real answers lie in asking those in gangs first and just listening first. But ultimately most often change has to come from within the affected group to be lasting.
 
You could start immediately by completely reforming the child welfare system, and making sure that, in the rare event that a child must be separated from her nuclear family, she be placed with a relative family, even if a couple of 'twice-removeds'.

Then, you work with gang members to identify ways in which their needs for family and connection can be met by the community as a whole.
 
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