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Well, the important thing is one that the churches will not do.

What is behind western support is the interest of western capitalists in supporting Israel. israel exists in the first place because western capitalists wanted it to exist as a major foothold for them in in the middle east. Thus our failure to criticize anything done by Israel. Thus the expendability of Palestinians.

Like the money changers in the temple, capitalism exists for the self interest of the major capitalists. Inevitably, it encourages greed and war which most of society finds quite respectable. By definition, this is not a Christian system. But church-goers commonly are people who crave respectability. They are most unlikely to challenge anything that most of our population finds quite respectable.

The creation of Israel was a huge mistake. We did it not out of any love or concern for Jews. We did for economic and strategic reasons. And we did it by giving them somebody else's land

Minimally, the U.N. should long ago have stopped Israeli abuse of Palestinians. It still could. But the UN is dominated by the U.S. The UN has accepted Israeli abuse, and even encouraged it. The result is a Palestinian 'nation' that is just a collection of splinters robbed by Israel and broken by Israel. What is required now is UN expulsion of Israelis from Palestinian territory, use force against Israel to prevent its abuse of Palestine, and supply aid to Palestine to recover.

Would the churches advocate that? I have seen no evidence that they will.

There is no easy answer to this - and none that the church alone can create. What it can do is to awaken people to the wrongness of what is being done. That's at least a starting point. But throughout history, the churches and their members have been more interested in conformity than change. There was a period in Canada - say 1920 to 1960 or so when some Christian leaders took a stand against capitalism in its indifference to human needs. Thus the old CCF and the introduction of medicare.
But they were a minority, and seem to have long since disappeared.

Minimally, what the churches could do is to put pressure on the federal government to be less cooperative with the American domination of the UN on this and other matters. (Hey! church-goers have no problem demonstrating against abortion. Should they be willing to demonstrate against mass murder and Canadian participation in it?)
 
Time’s Up for Israel’s Impunity

"Yet the disgust with Israel’s slaughter of innocents in Gaza, as it was celebrating the 70th anniversary of its birth from the ashes of the Holocaust, is palpable. The images of Gazans yearning to live in freedom and dignity being gunned down while trying to are not something open-hearted people can un-remember."

 
Well, the important thing is one that the churches will not do.

What is behind western support is the interest of western capitalists in supporting Israel. israel exists in the first place because western capitalists wanted it to exist as a major foothold for them in in the middle east. Thus our failure to criticize anything done by Israel. Thus the expendability of Palestinians.

Like the money changers in the temple, capitalism exists for the self interest of the major capitalists. Inevitably, it encourages greed and war which most of society finds quite respectable. By definition, this is not a Christian system. But church-goers commonly are people who crave respectability. They are most unlikely to challenge anything that most of our population finds quite respectable.

The creation of Israel was a huge mistake. We did it not out of any love or concern for Jews. We did for economic and strategic reasons. And we did it by giving them somebody else's land

Minimally, the U.N. should long ago have stopped Israeli abuse of Palestinians. It still could. But the UN is dominated by the U.S. The UN has accepted Israeli abuse, and even encouraged it. The result is a Palestinian 'nation' that is just a collection of splinters robbed by Israel and broken by Israel. What is required now is UN expulsion of Israelis from Palestinian territory, use force against Israel to prevent its abuse of Palestine, and supply aid to Palestine to recover.

Would the churches advocate that? I have seen no evidence that they will.

There is no easy answer to this - and none that the church alone can create. What it can do is to awaken people to the wrongness of what is being done. That's at least a starting point. But throughout history, the churches and their members have been more interested in conformity than change. There was a period in Canada - say 1920 to 1960 or so when some Christian leaders took a stand against capitalism in its indifference to human needs. Thus the old CCF and the introduction of medicare.
But they were a minority, and seem to have long since disappeared.

Minimally, what the churches could do is to put pressure on the federal government to be less cooperative with the American domination of the UN on this and other matters. (Hey! church-goers have no problem demonstrating against abortion. Should they be willing to demonstrate against mass murder and Canadian participation in it?)
Sounds like some good ideas other than the UN using force against Israel IMO...I doubt most honest or pro peace churches would advocate that.
 
The objective of Israel is the complete destruction of Palestine, and its addition to Israel. There are also other expansions in the planning.

Trump has made it quite clear he wants a war with Iran, and he wants a major chunk of Syria. And Israel is on board for that.
 
Very few churches are pro-peace, except in the abstract. Quite the contrary. Churches have identified themselves as supporter of every war I have ever heard of.
 
Conflict is invariable ... it persists in God(s) ole mind as a disturbance in peace ... and we each get a piece as ration ... integral that's ration-all! But we don't gather and grasp intellect all that well as alien intelligence ...

All unknown is out ... thus tight sects!
 
Wondering why, amongst all Palestinians, the Christian Palestinians don't suicide bomb? Aren't they under the same persecution and horror etc that all Palestinians are? Are they made of stronger stuff? Do they have the right Deity on their side? Statistical lies? Another strange fact that I have been having trouble parsing.

Oh for a holocaust cloak

 
In uncommon cases when news of atrocities penetrates to the wider public, Israel blames destruction and casualties on Hamas.


'An expensive price'

After many protests, demonstrators often gather at tents near the Al Bureij refugee camp to socialise and support one another. Iyad Abu Oweini, a 27-year-old university student focused on history, stays at the tents long after the sunsets to discuss the latest incidents.

He said he doesn’t trust Palestinian leaders or political parties any longer, only the voice of the youth.

We are Palestinians and everyone has his own political beliefs. Hamas controls Gaza, but it does not mean that the protesters are Hamas

“Throughout history, it was proved that freedom and dignity are gained by scarifying to achieve the people’s demands. I know that this is a harsh reality, since we will lose dear ones, but freedom has an expensive price in Palestine,” Oweini said.

He added: “We were occupied since the British mandate, and now we are occupied by Israel.”

Oweini believes that Israel has tried to manipulate the narrative about the border protests by saying that young people are affiliated with political parties or are terrorists following Hamas. a narrative, He added that the US has adopted Israel's account, but the truth is much simpler.

“We are peaceful protesters. All the demonstrations around the world are not faced by live ammunition, but we are met by excessive weapons while we are all unarmed,” said Oweini.

His friend, 26-year-old, Mo’men Muteir, also unemployed, echoed his remarks.

“Israel tries to tell the world the people in Gaza are Hamas, which is wrong. We are Palestinians and everyone has his own political beliefs. Hamas controls Gaza, but it does not mean that the protesters are Hamas,” Muteir said.

"We are here to have our say and to call for our rights to end the humanitarian crisis we suffer from."

On Tuesday, as Nakba protests were underway in Gaza, Muteir was mourning the loss of his friend Amed Al-Odeini, 30, who was killed by Israeli forces on Monday in the protest at the Gaza border.

Odeini, Muteir said, was an organiser behind major protests in the West Bank and Gaza in March 2011 calling for the end of fighting between Hamas and Fatah. Odeini also helped lead demonstrations against the Prawer Plan, which called for the destruction of Bedouin villages and displacement of their residents before it was halted in 2013. His friend, he said, never held back on efforts to support the rights of young people.

Ahmed al-Rawagh, 28, another protester from Al-Bureij refugee camp, said he and others have been misjudged.

No jobs, no leader, no hope: Why Palestinian youth refuse to surrender
 
Hamas and Israel both got what they wanted out of latest kerfuffle?
Hamas got a body count
And Israel got " Bravely Defending the Wall"?

I truly wonder what Israelis want? What Gazans want? I suspect it isn't reported much. I also suspect it isn't 1 thing. And if it is multiple things, how to accommodate them?

Either way, in the long game, Israel is going 2 lose and b wiped from the map due to attrition methinks
 
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Israel wants much, much more land. Much more.

A control factor ... once known and understood as avarice ... thus cold shoulders to lesser powers ... intellect and wisdom ... these are below the emotional horizon ...

Is that subtle ... or partisan occupied?
 
@Graeme Decarie might be especially interested in this resurfaced publication from 1934.


What caught my attention most was Page 7, discussing how the oppression or subjugation of women is always the first step toward any “retrogressive political scheme”. This 1934 magazine talks about the deliberate suppression of the advances of women, and inroads to equality...back then! Much of the magazine sounds eerily similar to now. It sounds, aside from a few outdated words, disturbingly current.

“Near the upper margin of the carte blanche accorded the primitive emotions by Fascist governments comes the immemorial one of sex hostility.”

Found at foreignpolicy.com

An Obscure Magazine From 1934 Predicted the Nazi Genocide
 
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The reading comprehension level of the 1934 publication is much higher than that of the site that’s hosting it. Humans have grown more stupid since 1934. The old magazine articles are a “long read”, which leaves me frustrated with myself. I’m sure I won’t be alone in that realization. The mainstream reads at no higher than grade 6, normally (despite education), and writes fairly simplisticly. And now we can’t even hold our attention for more than a few tweets.

That’s part of the problem...why we ignore what’s going on. We’re functionally illiterate compared to our not so distant human relatives. That’s because of datacentrism and reliance on technology. We’ve lost our attention spans and cognitive depth along with them.
 
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Kimmio,
hitlers” Mein Kampf” Was written in1926 and was a bestseller in 1933. Anybody who read it could have predicted that.
 
Kimmio,
hitlers” Mein Kampf” Was written in1926 and was a bestseller in 1933. Anybody who read it could have predicted that.
It happened anyway, though? My guess is it was mostly his following, reading it, not those who opposed his regime.

This publication, I posted earier, is written by the people most threatened by Hitler. Did no one listen or believe he was a threat for several more years?
 
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