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eventually, it will create chaos and anarchy. We need fundamental changes to our political and economic system. But power is in the hands of people who like the present system because they're getting stunningly rich out of it.
I do agree on the need for significant change!!
 
and the numbers are really interesting. Who will be chosen as the speaker? Will it be Liberal and thus reduce Liberal votes? Or Green to reduce their power -but also gain power as speaker -or will they break tradition and appoint an NDP?
 
@revjohn

In the mortal position .. does only appearances count ... leaving questions about imaginary numbers?

Consider the enigma the banks are now facing due to unforeseen forces ... popping up from under the blanketing of past affairs ... tapestries of the unreal? We can't say imaginary as it smells to strongly of rotten brae ins ...
 
Luce NDs said:
In the mortal position .. does only appearances count ... leaving questions about imaginary numbers?

Numbers only count when we stop to count the numbers.

At present I do not expect BC Libs or the BC NDP to cease being less of who they are. BC Greens are on the proverbial fence. They are not forced to cease being who they are obviously. Building the BC that they envision is going to require some sacrifice.

Because they will always have binary choices support the government or oppose the government. And from the outside even if Greens are mentioned as propping up the government or the opposition the emphasis will be on the governing party or the loyal opposition.

BC Greens are, at this moment in time, relegated to the position of perennial bridesmaid.
 
Numbers only count when we stop to count the numbers.

At present I do not expect BC Libs or the BC NDP to cease being less of who they are. BC Greens are on the proverbial fence. They are not forced to cease being who they are obviously. Building the BC that they envision is going to require some sacrifice.

Because they will always have binary choices support the government or oppose the government. And from the outside even if Greens are mentioned as propping up the government or the opposition the emphasis will be on the governing party or the loyal opposition.

BC Greens are, at this moment in time, relegated to the position of perennial bridesmaid.

A dream position, aspiring ... or purely Unreal Number as the mythical "i"? Does such an "i" pear over ones shoulder with dubious leer? Then many do not believe in sub-cons science either ... its mental and you know the attitude about thinkers being dangerous ...
 
Luce NDs said:
A dream position, aspiring

Probably depends on which half of the glass informs. For some a dream and others a nightmare. Certainly aspiration abounds.

Luce NDs said:
Does such an "i" pear over ones shoulder with dubious leer?


Peer over? I think not. Peer from? I think that is closer to the paint. And the quality of the leer (or the Lear as may be) is usually tinted green.

Luce NDs said:
you know the attitude about thinkers being dangerous ...

Amen. An emphasis on question rather than cementing answers is the most dangerous of all threats to order be it decent and good or not.

 
Probably depends on which half of the glass informs. For some a dream and others a nightmare. Certainly aspiration abounds.



Peer over? I think not. Peer from? I think that is closer to the paint. And the quality of the leer (or the Lear as may be) is usually tinted green.



Amen. An emphasis on question rather than cementing answers is the most dangerous of all threats to order be it decent and good or not.

If it calms does it ghost ...
 
I'm not sure the NDP can become less than what it has made itself over the past fifty years. And the Greens? It's nice to want to do nice things. But we cannot change what is being done to planet without changing the politics. The Greens, bless them, want to do good things. What they seem to have railed to realize that good things cannot be done unless you first destroy the power of bad people. And that means fundamental changes to our political and economic system.
 
The Greens are apparently trying to use their position as the balance of power to get either the Liberals or NDP to agree to bring in proportional representation without a referendum - which would be awkward given that BC has held two referenda on electoral reform and both have failed - although Andrew Weaver (the Green Leader) has said he's open to a referendum on proportional representation AFTER it gets brought in by the Legislature.

It will be interesting to see if either the Liberals or NDP go for it.
 
The Greens are apparently trying to use their position as the balance of power to get either the Liberals or NDP to agree to bring in proportional representation without a referendum - which would be awkward given that BC has held two referenda on electoral reform and both have failed

WHich does make one ask "what part of no do you not understand"?

To which the common answer is "if people REALLY understood the question/issue they would vote yes". Which is a little condescending and presumptuous--sort of reminds me of some UCCan discussions I have witnessed.
 
I think we are faced with problems and powers that can be dealt with only by profound changes. That means a lot of changing the way people think. It's going to call for an anger and determination and courage that is pretty rare in politics.
 
I think we are faced with problems and powers that can be dealt with only by profound changes. That means a lot of changing the way people think. It's going to call for an anger and determination and courage that is pretty rare in politics.


Such capability for change is way beyond us ... due to one way thinking ... no encyclopedic wisdom accepted ... causes dizziness ... otherwise vert -eghosts ... you know green sprouts ...
 
Final results are in. It is indeed a minority government with the Greens holding the balance of power.

I should add that this is exactly why I reject proportional representation. With first past the post you get minority governments now and then. That's fine. It kind of keeps everyone honest. But PR would mean perpetual minority governments. And what happens in minorities is what's happening in BC right now. A party with limited support (the Greens) gets to be the tail wagging the dog so to speak, making demands, and negotiating behind closed doors with nobody really knowing what's being offered in exchange for what. At least with a majority government, I know what the governing party has promised, I can judge what they're doing and I can hold them accountable in the next election.
 
Bye bye Christi!
Actually she has to decide what to do, she can resign, she can try and lead without the majority, she can call a new election Her possibilities are endless.
It's likely that the Lt. Governor wouldn't agree to an election call since she's in a minority situation and hasn't gained the confidence of the Legislature yet. It's confidence that would give her the right to dissolve the legislature and call an election. In the current situation, with another party (the NDP) having a reasonable prospect of forming a government that could command confidence, the Lt. Governor would pretty much have to give Horgan the chance to try.

Her options really are either to resign or to meet the Legislature and seek a vote of confidence and turn over power to Horgan if she loses it.

It's very similar to the Ontario situation of 1985.
 
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