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Redbaron said:
Ah. So you're setting yourself up as Judge of All Theologians and Theological Thought.
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No , that's you making accusations when you can't properly debate, that's a classic Liberal move to shut down debate, as Christians scripture says that we will not be left orphans By Gods Holy Spirit which gives us the ability to discern not judge but discern (look up the word), between what is True and what is false regarding spiritual matter.

and why do we need that, well because, for one, you or I or anyone else cannot see the spiritual realm and we were not Present 2000 yrs ago so we need a teacher, a witness, and a comforter and His name is not Borg, or Crossan or any pastors name, conservative or progressive.

I thought that was God's job.
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Gods eternal Judgement does belong to God, decerning spiritual truths is not judging a person act of will.

Could it be you might be mocking God, by trying to take over God's job?
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again, this is you mocking and accusing rather than honest debate

satan is an accuser, dont be him
 
No, not mocking, not accusing, just calling your attention to something you apparently would prefer not to see. You might want to ponder John 9:41. Seriously.
 
Redbaron said:
No, not mocking, not accusing, just calling your attention to something you apparently would prefer not to see. You might want to ponder John 9:41. Seriously.
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maybe you should take that verse in its context, it will help you greatly

John 9:41, NIV: "Jesus said, 'If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains

Jesus is speaking to the Pharisees who Physically see Jesus and His works and still refuse to believe Him and prefer to choose their own power and authority over Jesus.


there is a reason the Holy Spirit is called the Spirit if TRUTH

I take it you have no clue between a Falsehoods and a lie or Truth
 
unsafe said:
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And how do you know that this passage isnt insinuating that the truth was changed by the Romans through the Roman Catholic church, 2000 years ago? Or that the very book you follow wasn't tampered with? Or that many books were left out of the Bible, as you know it, but that early Christians would have included because they included them?
 
Waterfall said:
And how do you know that this passage isnt insinuating that the truth was changed by the Romans through the Roman Catholic church, 2000 years ago? Or that the very book you follow wasn't tampered with? Or that many books were left out of the Bible, as you know it, but that early Christians would have included because they included them?
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Romans was written by Paul to the Romans During the winter of 57–58 a.d, it has nothing to do with the RC , The RC didnt exist at that time, it wasn't till 312 ad the Constantine converted, , but anyhow there has been many studies done on how accurate the bible is today if I remember its somewhere around 97% and the 3% in no way affects the spiritual message. But regardless of all that, this passage is really really simple because there are only 2 entities in play, God and man , who do we worship God or what we create, Idols

and Idol is something we turn God into, God becomes a lie and we give it power through worship & reverence , and thus it becomes very powerful in our lives.
 
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There are satyr, satire and odd metaphors that may appear as funny for those that can't see through these things of double meaning ... because of single views of a multifaceted god with a humble side that is subtle!

Lo ... look up and see what befalls those blind to that which takes flight! Dragons ...
 
blackbelt1961 said:
Romans was written by Paul to the Romans During the winter of 57–58 a.d, it has nothing to do with the RC , The RC didnt exist at that time, it wasn't till 312 ad the Constantine converted, , but anyhow there has been many studies done on how accurate the bible is today if I remember its somewhere around 97% and the 3% in no way affects the spiritual message. But regardless of all that, this passage is really really simple because there are only 2 entities in play, God and man , who do we worship God or what we create, Idols

and Idol is something we turn God into, God becomes a lie and we give it power through worship & reverence , and thus it becomes very powerful in our lives.
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Paul was aware of the pagans worshipping of idols in his day....the church later was too....but chose to assimilate those beliefs into Christianity when it became law.
 
blackbelt1961 said:
Romans was written by Paul to the Romans During the winter of 57–58 a.d, it has nothing to do with the RC , The RC didnt exist at that time, it wasn't till 312 ad the Constantine converted, , but anyhow there has been many studies done on how accurate the bible is today if I remember its somewhere around 97% and the 3% in no way affects the spiritual message. But regardless of all that, this passage is really really simple because there are only 2 entities in play, God and man , who do we worship God or what we create, Idols

and Idol is something we turn God into, God becomes a lie and we give it power through worship & reverence , and thus it becomes very powerful in our lives.
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Is the bible turned into an idol ... if you can't see the depth of satyrs piled there?
 
blackbelt1961 said:
no different today really, who do you worship?

the Creator or the created? is as relevant today as it was back when Paul wrote
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In essence (non material) reference to the double cheeked metaphor ... these baffle the straight liners ... never speak of truth when a good code of heaps will obscure what the powerful didn't wish to know anyhows ... one must learn to read into the demos ... thus profound myths ... a basis of dryad English as drawn up from ancient draughts ... it may appear as a word of God or a God of word depending on whether coming or going to those on the run without time to stop and ponder the beauty of the allah gory ... a plasmic flash of wonder in ephraim?
 
"Who do you worship?" is a really great question. I have heard it phrased as "What kind of God do you believe in?"

The one Jesus asked, "Who do you say that I am?" is another good one.
 
Waterfall said:
Have no idea what youre talking about here? Explanation?
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sure,

your post above to @unsafe questioned the veracity of Romans 1: 25, which lead to believe if you can believe it True or not, yet in your later post you say "God knows....I answer to Him not you. "

which kinda made your post to unsafe , hypocritical, because you believe in the Creator and not the created

which is the essence of Romans 1:25
 
3% must be rhe spelling mistakes.....of course there is more proof the Bible has been tampered with than that.
 
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