Should health care quality be based on your wealth?

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To go along with the above too, I have come across that attitude with health care as well.
Suggestions like abolishing current programs to give all a 'living wage'. or that those who are 'rich' should have to pay for aspects of healthcare while those who are not should get it for free.
Do these people have any idea how much money I would require for a 'living wage' if I had to cover costs of medical care all by myself? Or how much meds can really cost?
 
I don't think that sums it all up, revjohn. I think it's about not being able to walk a mile in anothers' shoes. And, naturally who would really desire to walk a mile as someone who has no shoes? Or, who can't walk?

Judgmental behaviour may go both ways but some of it comes from being oppressed and some of it comes from a sense of entitlement. I've been on both sides and one path to judgmentalism is rooted in greed and the other is not.
 
To go along with the above too, I have come across that attitude with health care as well.
Suggestions like abolishing current programs to give all a 'living wage'. or that those who are 'rich' should have to pay for aspects of healthcare while those who are not should get it for free.
Do these people have any idea how much money I would require for a 'living wage' if I had to cover costs of medical care all by myself? Or how much meds can really cost?

Everyone should have to pay - no one has the right to free health care. However, some people are unable to pay. Let us as a society do the compassionate thing and pay for them. Meanwhile, those wealthy enough can pay their own way.
 
Everyone should have to pay - no one has the right to free health care. However, some people are unable to pay. Let us as a society do the compassionate thing and pay for them. Meanwhile, those wealthy enough can pay their own way.
So someone who is wealthy should have millions of dollars kept liquid just in case they experience a health issue that costs a great deal to treat? I don't get that expectation.
Many of those who are wealthy already are paying more into the system via taxation.

I'd rather see some of the tax loopholes eliminated and the tax cheats dealt with rather than throwing a huge bill at someone right after they are dealt a big health blow.
 
To go along with the above too, I have come across that attitude with health care as well.
Suggestions like abolishing current programs to give all a 'living wage'. or that those who are 'rich' should have to pay for aspects of healthcare while those who are not should get it for free.
Do these people have any idea how much money I would require for a 'living wage' if I had to cover costs of medical care all by myself? Or how much meds can really cost?
Yeah, maybe a lot of them do know, actually.
 
So someone who is wealthy should have millions of dollars kept liquid just in case they experience a health issue that costs a great deal to treat? I don't get that expectation.
Many of those who are wealthy already are paying more into the system via taxation.

I'd rather see some of the tax loopholes eliminated and the tax cheats dealt with rather than throwing a huge bill at someone right after they are dealt a big health blow.

Hardest hit by taxation are the middle class ChemGal. Not we poor folk, not you wealthy.
 
Okay, sorry about that, my bad. I had thought you were a well-made research scientist.
I didn't work for years due to my illness. I quit graduate school because of it. I currently do not make enough money to even claim all my leftover tuition credits.
 
I didn't work for years due to my illness. I quit graduate school because of it. I currently do not make enough money to even claim all my leftover tuition credits.

"Illness?" My recollection is that you have always presented yourself as an independent and well-paid research scientist on the cutting edge of nanotechnology.
 
What? When have I ever done that?

I am unable to cite a specific time. My perception on that construction of you is obviously faulty. It does beg the question, why ChemGal? Your use of that name suggests that you are working in the sciences, a lucrative field to be sure.
 
The living wage information I have seen doesn't support that.
They know healthcare costs a lot of money, period. I think it's precisely the fact that wages do not even cover adequate food and shelter for many, even people who work full time, that there's a push for it. There are a lot of people with basic unmet needs, not even including the healthcare they may need. No surprise, that costs the healthcare system more in the long run, too.
 
The stereotypes of rich heartless people are no more accurate than any other stereotype. Flawed at best

Most Canadians I know appreciate our healthcare system and agree with the idea that our tax dollars go towards helping everyone, especially the ones who need help.

But most people also know that money is wasted, and that the system can’t support itself. Most people I know want to see creative ideas

I think most Canadians are grateful we have a system that works to a level. I also think that people should be able to say, this part doesn’t work and not have doom and gloom scenarios thrust at them

My family minimally uses the health system though my husband does more so now with his cancer diagnosis. But at this initial stage he is mainly doing check ups. One kid has never been ill. One has asthma that was part of a big international study out of Atlanta Center for disease control. There was a lot of smoothness from that study that we don’t often see in our day to day health care needs

We need medical schools to enrol students to fill jobs. We need chronic care and palliative care facilities built and used properly. We need drug care for those who don’t get it from work. We need hospitals to stop putting people in hallways. We need Canadians to have family doctors. We need to stop thinking our system is the best. It is not, by far
 
The stereotypes of rich heartless people are no more accurate than any other stereotype. Flawed at best

Most Canadians I know appreciate our healthcare system and agree with the idea that our tax dollars go towards helping everyone, especially the ones who need help.

But most people also know that money is wasted, and that the system can’t support itself. Most people I know want to see creative ideas

I think most Canadians are grateful we have a system that works to a level. I also think that people should be able to say, this part doesn’t work and not have doom and gloom scenarios thrust at them

My family minimally uses the health system though my husband does more so now with his cancer diagnosis. But at this initial stage he is mainly doing check ups. One kid has ever been ill. One has asthma that was part of a big international study out of Atlant Center for disease control. There was a lot of smoothness from that study that we don’t often see in our day to day health care needs

We need medical schools to enrol students to fill jobs. We need chronic care and palliative care facilities built and used properly. We need drug care for those who don’t get it from work. We need hospitals to stop putting people in hallways. We need Canadians to have family doctors. We need to stop thinking our system is the best. It is not, by far
yup
similar to how there is a stereotype that, say, the USA was made by powerful people which favours not everyone (privilege) yet I am finding countless examples of how the US and even our world, what we think of as normal and everyday, were made by minorities, outcasts and misfits. Oh BS are very powerful, filtering out all sorts of info.
 
Well, yeah, but they struggled for it. Paid with blood, sweat and tears. Too often died for it. It wasn't like they had the means at their fingertips or were in powerful positions where they could make decisions to level the playing field, and not be any worse off in the big picture, but had no desire to. That is the cause of the worst inequality and it is pervasive!
 
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