revjohn
Well-Known Member
DaisyJane said:Honestly?
I find judgemental behaviour often isn't linked to income.
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DaisyJane said:Honestly?
I find judgemental behaviour often isn't linked to income.
I don't think that sums it all up, revjohn. I think it's about not being able to walk a mile in anothers' shoes. And, naturally who would really desire to walk a mile as someone who has no shoes? Or, who can't walk?This.
To go along with the above too, I have come across that attitude with health care as well.
Suggestions like abolishing current programs to give all a 'living wage'. or that those who are 'rich' should have to pay for aspects of healthcare while those who are not should get it for free.
Do these people have any idea how much money I would require for a 'living wage' if I had to cover costs of medical care all by myself? Or how much meds can really cost?
So someone who is wealthy should have millions of dollars kept liquid just in case they experience a health issue that costs a great deal to treat? I don't get that expectation.Everyone should have to pay - no one has the right to free health care. However, some people are unable to pay. Let us as a society do the compassionate thing and pay for them. Meanwhile, those wealthy enough can pay their own way.
Yeah, maybe a lot of them do know, actually.To go along with the above too, I have come across that attitude with health care as well.
Suggestions like abolishing current programs to give all a 'living wage'. or that those who are 'rich' should have to pay for aspects of healthcare while those who are not should get it for free.
Do these people have any idea how much money I would require for a 'living wage' if I had to cover costs of medical care all by myself? Or how much meds can really cost?
So someone who is wealthy should have millions of dollars kept liquid just in case they experience a health issue that costs a great deal to treat? I don't get that expectation.
Many of those who are wealthy already are paying more into the system via taxation.
I'd rather see some of the tax loopholes eliminated and the tax cheats dealt with rather than throwing a huge bill at someone right after they are dealt a big health blow.
I'm not wealthy.Hardest hit by taxation are the middle class ChemGal. Not we poor folk, not you wealthy.
I'm not wealthy.
The living wage information I have seen doesn't support that.Yeah, maybe a lot of them do know, actually.
I didn't work for years due to my illness. I quit graduate school because of it. I currently do not make enough money to even claim all my leftover tuition credits.Okay, sorry about that, my bad. I had thought you were a well-made research scientist.
I didn't work for years due to my illness. I quit graduate school because of it. I currently do not make enough money to even claim all my leftover tuition credits.
What? When have I ever done that?"Illness?" My recollection is that you have always presented yourself as an independent and well-paid research scientist on the cutting edge of nanotechnology.
What? When have I ever done that?
They know healthcare costs a lot of money, period. I think it's precisely the fact that wages do not even cover adequate food and shelter for many, even people who work full time, that there's a push for it. There are a lot of people with basic unmet needs, not even including the healthcare they may need. No surprise, that costs the healthcare system more in the long run, too.The living wage information I have seen doesn't support that.
yupThe stereotypes of rich heartless people are no more accurate than any other stereotype. Flawed at best
Most Canadians I know appreciate our healthcare system and agree with the idea that our tax dollars go towards helping everyone, especially the ones who need help.
But most people also know that money is wasted, and that the system can’t support itself. Most people I know want to see creative ideas
I think most Canadians are grateful we have a system that works to a level. I also think that people should be able to say, this part doesn’t work and not have doom and gloom scenarios thrust at them
My family minimally uses the health system though my husband does more so now with his cancer diagnosis. But at this initial stage he is mainly doing check ups. One kid has ever been ill. One has asthma that was part of a big international study out of Atlant Center for disease control. There was a lot of smoothness from that study that we don’t often see in our day to day health care needs
We need medical schools to enrol students to fill jobs. We need chronic care and palliative care facilities built and used properly. We need drug care for those who don’t get it from work. We need hospitals to stop putting people in hallways. We need Canadians to have family doctors. We need to stop thinking our system is the best. It is not, by far